Curse

talisk3 · Jan 08, 2009, 12:43 PM // 12:43

I'm tired of running the stardard BHA or Barrage or Incendiary. Are there any underused elites that could be used to make some decent running builds?

bungusmaximus · Jan 08, 2009, 12:52 PM // 12:52

[prepared shot][read the wind][concussion shot][flail][distracting shot][antidote signet][natural stride][resurrection signet] maybe?

meh no troll might be baed, but meh

Somehow I got a feeling these skill tags don't always work well :P RTW isn't visible

Arkantos · Jan 08, 2009, 12:54 PM // 12:54

[rampage as one][experts dexterity][glass arrows][burning arrow][punishing shot]

Just run whatever you want tbh.

Abedeus · Jan 08, 2009, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Or go R/W and run Triple Chop, Dragon Slash, Evis, Earthshaker or anything at all. Or R/D or R/P. Anything but R/A, they suck.

shogun avatar · Jan 08, 2009, 01:37 PM // 13:37

R/A doesn't suck, but it's a bloody nuisance!

bungusmaximus · Jan 08, 2009, 01:44 PM // 13:44

R/A have the same good e-management as A/X, but A/X does more damage and adds nothing extra to the table, therefore, R/A suck imho.

Rothan Celt · Jan 08, 2009, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Rangers are very felxable and can pump out dps on any weapon that they choose to weild

be creative and mess around with builds

if u like bows...

[Skill] Ebon Dust Aura [/Skill] & [skill] Volley [/skill] = fun blind spamming

if u like hammers run EARTHSHAKORzzzz!

its fun!

and rangers handle it well.

[skill] Enraged Lunge [/skill] That with some melee skills is fun Running into battle with ur pet in tow is ftw!

Could always just go toucher......[skill] Offering of Blood [/skill] its fun for awhile

[skill] Melandru's Shot [/skill] Imo the funnest ranger skill! me being a fequent Ab'er pinnig down a melee and watching him degen to death is so funny as well as snaring some caster class from a fleeing/avoiding mob and ganking that one to death. Imo its the best ranger skill for Ab

Of course the Turret ranger is one of my fave builds...kinda used alot however

But anywayz. theres plenty of fun mixes out there!

ac1inferno · Jan 08, 2009, 06:52 PM // 18:52

There's a lot of builds that don't use [[Broad Head Arrow], [[Barrage], or [[Incendiary Arrows].

1. [build prof=R/D exp=11+1 mar=10+1+1 earthp=10][Ebon Dust Aura][Volley][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Called Shot][Sloth Hunter's Shot][Lightning Reflexes][Resurrection Signet][/build]

2. [build prof=R/D Expertise=12+1+1 Scythe=12][Pious Assault][Victorious Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Optional][Escape][Lightning Reflexes][Rending Touch][Resurrection Signet][/build]
[[Antidote Signet] - to remove conditions.
[[Crippling Victory] - to snare.
[[Apply Poison] (you'll need a Minor Wilderness Survival Rune)
[[Zealous Sweep] - extra damage and energy.
[[Throw Dirt] for blind.

3. [build prof=Ranger/Dervish ScytheMastery=12 Expertise=12+1+1][Wounding Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Dwarven Stability][Lightning Reflexes][Aura of Holy Might][Antidote Signet][Resurrection Signet][/build]

4. [build prof=r/d exp=11+1+1 scythe=11 wild=7+1 earthprayers=5][wounding strike][crippling victory][Eremite's Attack][natural stride][lightning reflexes][Aura of Thorns][apply poison][resurrection signet][/build]

5. [build prof=range/warri hammer=12 expert=12+1+1][earth shaker][pulverizing smash][crude swing][whirlwind attack]["On Your Knees!"][lightning reflexes][optional][sunspear rebirth sig][/build]
Add in [["For Great Justice!" (PvE)] and remove a skill of choice to help build adrenaline when you need it most.
[[Apply Poison] to spread poison with your AoE attacks.
[[Whirlwind Attack] can be equipped for more AoE damage.
Various other PvE skills of choice can be brought, such as the dwarf shouts, [["I Am Unstoppable!"], or [[Dwarven Stability].
Consider [[Crushing Blow] if you're having a hard time timing Pulverizing Smash.
[[Antidote Signet] if you find yourself in area where you are blinded constantly.
[[Backbreaker] Just for a variant... and a possible way to get off the full combo

6. [build prof=R/any Marksm=12+1+1 Expert=12+1][Volley][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Sloth Hunter's Shot][Optional][Lightning Reflexes][Infuriating Heat][Resurrection Signet][/build]
For condition removal, take [[Antidote Signet] or [[Mending Touch].
Take [["Save Yourselves!"] yourself for use on your party. This can be quickly charged with a full [[Volley].
Additional damage skills like [[Marauder's Shot] can be equipped.
[[Disrupting Shot] for another interrupt.
Counter interrupts with [[Mantra of Resolve] or [[Mantra of Concentration].
In areas with enemies that would take advantage of [[Infuriating Heat], take [[Soothing] along with extra points into Communing.
Take [[Favorable Winds] to buff arrow damage if your party has other rangers.
For more single-target damage, take [[Dual Shot], [[Forked Arrow], or [[Triple Shot].
Boost team damage with [[Ebon Battle Standard of Honor].
For player, [[Drunken Master] with a decent Deldrimor rank will be a better than Lightning Reflexes. It will also make Drunkard Title a bit less monotonous.
[[Serpent's Quickness] and [[Dwarven Stability] can be used to reduce the recharge of Volley to 1 second in order to spam it as much as you would [[Barrage].

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Jan 08, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57

=/ Pretty sure the OP said "DECENT, RUNNING builds" not "Random AB/PvE Builds"

I'd say one of the best elites if you want to be a runner is to take Escape and go R/A.

[Morkai] · Jan 08, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12

From the way the start of the post was worded, it sounds more to me like "any builds that run decently". As in work well. Why would he mention BHA,Barrage and IA otherwise?

Anyways, pretty much what Arkantos said. Though Prep shot Zojuns/Point Blank shot spam works well i've heard.

Abedeus · Jan 08, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie the reaper

=/ Pretty sure the OP said "DECENT, RUNNING builds" not "Random AB/PvE Builds"

I'd say one of the best elites if you want to be a runner is to take Escape and go R/A.

And you don't see how you are contradicting yourself?

R/A =/= decent.

In fact, R/A using any Assassins skills other than self-defense (or something like Rush, if you don't want any Ranger speed boosts) is auto-fail.

Lyynyyrd · Jan 08, 2009, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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WhiteAsIce · Jan 08, 2009, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

And you don't see how you are contradicting yourself?

And you don't see how the OP is contradicting himself? He asked for "decent running builds" that don't include "BHA or Barrage or Incendiary." I've never seen a running build that includes any of these.

Abedeus · Jan 08, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteAsIce

And you don't see how the OP is contradicting himself? He asked for "decent running builds" that don't include "BHA or Barrage or Incendiary." I've never seen a running build that includes any of these.

Prepared Shot.

Burning Arrow.

Earthshaker.

Infuriating Heat (DoA in Physical teams, for example).

Escape.

Wounding Strike.

Expert's Dexterity.

All of them can be used on a Ranger and are great.

Silversword22 · Jan 08, 2009, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

R/A have the same good e-management as A/X, but A/X does more damage and adds nothing extra to the table, therefore, R/A suck imho.

[build prof=r/a name="wtf dagger ranger1" box expertise=12+1+1 dagger=12] [golden fox strike][wild strike][shattering assault][brawling headbutt][falling lotus strike][lightning reflexes][dwarven stability][optional][/build]
[build prof=r/a box name="wtf dagger ranger2" expertise=12+1+1 dagger=12][golden phoenix strike][death blossom][moebius strike][brawling headbutt][falling lotus strike][lightning reflexes][dwarven stability][optional][/build]

Less damage than normal assassin...yes
Has a nice IAS and damage evasion...yes
Energy management...decent
As good as regular assassin...no
Fun builds to play now and again...maybe

Marverick · Jan 09, 2009, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Prior to the Expert's Dexterity nerf this actually was a very effective R/A build to play in PvE. ~110ish DPS along with spammable KDs.

[Expert's Dexterity][Golden Lotus Strike][Jungle Strike][Death Blossom][Trampling Ox][Great Dwarf Armor][Drunken Master]["You Move Like a Dwarf!"]

Of course it's completely useless now...

Age · Jan 09, 2009, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Take your pick scavenger focus looks intersting.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rang...kill_locations

bungusmaximus · Jan 09, 2009, 08:05 AM // 08:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silversword22

[build prof=r/a name="wtf dagger ranger1" box expertise=12+1+1 dagger=12] [golden fox strike][wild strike][shattering assault][brawling headbutt][falling lotus strike][lightning reflexes][dwarven stability][optional][/build]
[build prof=r/a box name="wtf dagger ranger2" expertise=12+1+1 dagger=12][golden phoenix strike][death blossom][moebius strike][brawling headbutt][falling lotus strike][lightning reflexes][dwarven stability][optional][/build]

Less damage than normal assassin...yes
Has a nice IAS and damage evasion...yes
Energy management...decent
As good as regular assassin...no
Fun builds to play now and again...maybe

Shattering assault pretty much rapes PvE, pretty handsome builds

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Jan 09, 2009, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

And you don't see how you are contradicting yourself?

R/A =/= decent.

In fact, R/A using any Assassins skills other than self-defense (or something like Rush, if you don't want any Ranger speed boosts) is auto-fail.

I'm not contradicting myself. Why on earth would I suggest Assassin attack skills on a R/A RUNNER. So of course the skills from the assassin line will be self defense/running aid. Which the assassin does extremely well. I'm not suggesting all assa skills, as the ranger utilises their own skills more effectively (runes etc) but 2 or 3 skills from the assassin line help greatly with running.

trankle · Jan 09, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie the reaper

I'm not contradicting myself. Why on earth would I suggest Assassin attack skills on a R/A RUNNER. So of course the skills from the assassin line will be self defense/running aid. Which the assassin does extremely well. I'm not suggesting all assa skills, as the ranger utilises their own skills more effectively (runes etc) but 2 or 3 skills from the assassin line help greatly with running.

I think the point is that people don't believe the OP is asking for a build for a runner. He's asking for a working/running/operational/effective general build.